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Friday, July 16, 2004
He Flipped, But His Wrists Were Stiff
CNN Transcript - Larry King Live: South Carolina Republican Debate - February 15, 2000
KING: So if you have gays working for you, that's fine. And you don't have a problem. You'd appoint gays in the Cabinet, et cetera.Yes, he had an opinion. And that opinion was that it was up to the states. That it was a states' rights issue. But then something happened in Massachusetts:
BUSH: Well, I'm not going to ask what their sexual orientation is.
KING: Oh, so you wouldn't know.
BUSH: I'm going to appoint conservative people in the Cabinet. It's none of my business what somebody's -- now when somebody makes it my business, like on gay marriage, I'm going to stand up and say I don't support gay marriage. I support marriage between men and women.
KING: So if a state were voting on gay marriage, you would suggest to that state not to approve it?
BUSH: The state can do what they want to do. Don't try to trap me in this state's issue like you're trying to get me into.
KING: You just did. You have an opinion.
(LAUGHTER)
"The union of a man and a woman is the most enduring human institution, honored and encouraged in all cultures and by every religious faith," Bush said.But then the amendment failed, and Bush realized that he looked intollerant. So he ammended his ammended position again:
"Marriage cannot be severed from its cultural, religious and natural roots without weakening the good influence of society."
The president said he decided to endorse an amendment because of the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court's recent decision granting marriage rights to same-sex couples, and San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom's decision two weeks ago to begin giving marriage licenses to gay and lesbian couples. (Emphasis mine; Mister)
"What they do in the privacy of their house, consenting adults should be able to do," Mr. Bush said during a campaign stop in Pennsylvania on Friday, seeking to distinguish between private behavior and giving legal sanction to same-sex marriages. "This is America. It's a free society. But it doesn't mean we have to redefine traditional marriage."And in the same article, we find this:
It also provided an opportunity for the White House to maneuver Senator John Kerry into a position where it could again accuse him of taking both sides of an issue, the central theme in its effort to portray Mr. Kerry as so lacking in conviction that he would be an unreliable leader. Mr. Kerry has said he opposes gay marriage, but he also opposed the amendment, largely on the grounds that the issue was one for states to decide.So Kerry is a flip-flopper for having the same position Bush had in 2000? Sorry, I only see one flip-flopper here.
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